One response is to say there are some core moral principles that we are born knowing. From these core principles one might be able to build an entire moral system.
However, this approach has to deal with the apparent diversity of morals among people.
Nope. I served this one straight up.
I don’t think there is a pun. I just thought it was funny that the guy was holding the huge telescope with one arm.
Morals are anything that benefits the species as a whole. It’s essentially what stops humans from being too self-concerned, and from killing millions of people for a penny.
Milo, Thad isn’t tacitly assuming that there are no objective moral values; he openly arguing in favor of moral subjectivism.
As a moral subjectivist myself, I would agree that “torture is morally wrong” but point out that my notion of morally wrong is quite different from the standard realist notion. (This is why moral subjectivism is sometimes referred to as a meta-ethical position. Of course, one’s meta-ethical views do have a big impact on one’s ethical views.)
So, no, I don’t think that there are any objective facts about morality. And unless you have a better idea about how to obtain knowledge of these supposed moral facts, they appear to be completely inaccessible. (The relationship between epistemology and ontology is a bit murky here. I would simply observe that real-but-inaccessible moral facts couldn’t affect human behavior or in any way play the role that moral realists want them to play.)
February 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
One response is to say there are some core moral principles that we are born knowing. From these core principles one might be able to build an entire moral system.
However, this approach has to deal with the apparent diversity of morals among people.
February 11th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I feel like I’m missing some pun on “light telescope”…
February 11th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Nope. I served this one straight up.
I don’t think there is a pun. I just thought it was funny that the guy was holding the huge telescope with one arm.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Morals are anything that benefits the species as a whole. It’s essentially what stops humans from being too self-concerned, and from killing millions of people for a penny.
February 28th, 2008 at 3:27 am
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July 21st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
So you seem to hold the tacit assumption that there are no objective moral values.
So the statement “The unwarranted gratuitous torture of young children is morally wrong,” is not true or false?
You don’t think that maybe, there are some objective facts about morality? Perhaps they’re just not readily accessible?
August 13th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Milo, Thad isn’t tacitly assuming that there are no objective moral values; he openly arguing in favor of moral subjectivism.
As a moral subjectivist myself, I would agree that “torture is morally wrong” but point out that my notion of morally wrong is quite different from the standard realist notion. (This is why moral subjectivism is sometimes referred to as a meta-ethical position. Of course, one’s meta-ethical views do have a big impact on one’s ethical views.)
So, no, I don’t think that there are any objective facts about morality. And unless you have a better idea about how to obtain knowledge of these supposed moral facts, they appear to be completely inaccessible. (The relationship between epistemology and ontology is a bit murky here. I would simply observe that real-but-inaccessible moral facts couldn’t affect human behavior or in any way play the role that moral realists want them to play.)